K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.

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The A Zildjian and Cie Constantinople cymbals are usually a bit heavier in weight than a similar A Zildjian cymbal from the same zildjixn. Of course, it is easier just to use the presence of the three dots to tell. But you should be aware that this usage is non standard, as are other things on that site.

cahalogo For examples of hammering on these mid s Large Stamp cymbals go to the hammering page. The non-Latin character s in the mark transliterate into “a fi des Zilgian Sha re kat”, and this means “Avedis Zildjian Company” in English. And on a more modern note, somebody has put the weight of grams on this one. I haven’t yet been able to determine if they represent an occasional pressing flaw, low spots on that particular die, that particular die starting to wear out, or something else.

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As best I can determine, Bill Hartrick distinguished 4 sub types of Trans stamps. Avedis K Laser Trademark or this Avedis K version of the same stamp, then zildjjan can proceed to the Year by Year section to find out when your cymbal was manufactured.

Zenjian for Actalogo s Image: Very different production eras. The date comes from somebody who recalls a new purchase. However, the whole stamp is very lightly pressed in so that much of the detail is missing.


So provided that bottom line is well struck this is easy to check. If you haven’t got a way to know the size, there are still a set of features which allow you to distinguish Large Stamps from either the late 50s small stamp without 3 dots or or the 70s stamp without the 3 dotsor the s stamp s with 3 dots. If you think zjldjian is far fetched, then consider a purely English calligraphic device: On stylistic grounds alone one might suggest that this AZCO CANADA stamp is the later one, and this is consistent with this version being zildjuan later stamp which Pinksterboer says is used on thin cymbals which aren’t hammered presumably just pressed into shape.

The detail of the cross bar distinguishes some stamp eras but I haven’t finished dong all my checking cxtalogo to present the results more generally. Meanwhile back in the USA there were other changes afoot for the s. One was produced in the same way as the Avedis cymbals of the day. We’re still gathering evidence.

So if the formula used in manufacture is very similar to the Avedis range, what is it that makes the sound different? Similarly, the first five laser years appear at 12 o’clock rather than 3 o’clock, but I’m not sure about II yet. There are still ways to tell the true Hollow Block from a 60s stamp which mimics this.

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The following image does a better job of illustrating the late 50s characteristic relatively bold ZILDJIAN and Ottoman sections, as well as showing how different the same die stamp can look depending on the details of how firmly it is pressed in and which portions are pressed in the most.

In order to distinguish xatalogo no three dots Large from the no dots Late 50s Small Stampsuse the details of which parts are bold versus finer lines.

Solid Script Zildjian The Zildjian becomes solid rather than hollow font, and now it is found on both the top and the bottom of the cymbal. As far as the info Zildjian gave to them. The K version shown above is AJ so that is But when we talk about ” the three dots ” it is the ones in a triangle in the Ottoman section upper portion of the stamp. Thus I have no way to judge the strength of the evidence.


The A Custom series offers musicians a range of choices in varied diameters to further hone their signature sound. Under stage lights, or even just the lights in your garage, the lathing bands create a shimmering effect which is magnified when the cymbals are struck.

But please don’t flood me with lots of these for the time being. My interest was in pricing studies and for that I need to have accurate assessments of production era so that I could code cymbals reliably as being s versus s. Introducing Ink and Mentioning Models Many people seem to think that Avedis Zildjian didn’t put ink on their cymbals until the mid s.

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This is Exhibit H in Bill’s original article. What remains elusive is a nice clear way to distinguish the three s hammering eras which works for most all cymbals. Large stamp without the 3 dots This above stamp, shown with ruler, does not have the three dots. Large stamp showing the flat center of the bell Above you can see the flat portion of 22012 bell.

This same nice vertical alignment is true of the C of Cymbals and the N of iN. The majority of cymbals with a Hollow Ink Logo have a 70s stamp although there are also a few examples which have either a 60s stamp or a CO stamp.

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But that currently seems zildjiian elusive as distinguishing the stamps and the s stamps without considering the hammering. First here are examples of each with a ruler. These two are dated in the printing itself. Many thanks to all those who are like me passionate about cymbals and trying to piece together the history of these alluring metal disks.