DOUGLAS HOFSTADTER I AM A STRANGE LOOP PDF

DOUGLAS HOFSTADTER I AM A STRANGE LOOP PDF

“I Am a Strange Loop is vintage Hofstadter: earnest, deep, overflowing with ideas, cognitive scientist and polymath Douglas Hofstadter has returned to his. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter. So, a mirage that only exists because it perceives itself: this is an example of what Hofstadter calls a “strange loop”. He has an endearing.

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Hofstader wrote this book under the long shadow of the death of his wife from a brain tumor at age And for this reason, it strikes me as less significant that a brain can think of itself, because brains clearly have flexibilities that formal systems don’t have.

Anyway, I am a self-referent loop that talks about itself. It doesn’t hold water. It was created when Hofstadter said it and someone else heard it.

You can read summaries of this book elsewhere; I won’t write one. But Hofstadter presents a pretty convincing argument for his theories on why I think I am I. As we learn about his life, his teenage fascination with self reflective images and the doglas of life, his family, his friends, we get a more llop picture of this wonderful teacher.

I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race. To me the simple answer is: However, what if the original weren’t destroyed, and so we end up with two people, with all the same physical and mental characteristics. We will essentially be able to see the world through their eyes.

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A Critical Review of Douglas Hofstadter’s I Am a Strange Loop | Adam Westra –

There are many personal hofstxdter and a lot about the death of his wife. This notion may seem far out at first, but I believe Hofstadter is onto something.

One author I recently spent time studying through the Not School philosophy of mind group is Douglas Hofstadterwho I’m here going to call “Doug” so I don’t have to type and potentially misspell “Hofstadter” 30 times. It was just a clever mapping. As Hofstadter himself writes: What this story lacks is an understanding of how a unique point-of-view makes the self what it is. He continued his education and received his Ph. It amounts to listening to some friend who got stoned and had an amazing idea.

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Tolle would probably say…you may be right that the Ego is a strange loop…but so what? And then, when perception twists back and focuses on itself, as it inevitably will, you get rich, magical-seeming consequences. I’m not sure off the top of my head to do it but Hofstadter has had since some time in the s to think of a way In all my reading of the dluglas literature on theory of mind and consciousness, only a very few books have made me feel as though, reading them, I were seeing a bit of the veil k back.

This idea of souledness is of course essentially a moral one.

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Douglas Hofstadter’s “I Am a Strange Loop” on the Self

Might we not lead ourselves into error by assuming strangee human consciousness is the highest attainment yet along a one-dimensional scale running from ‘no soul’ to ‘maximum soul? But I’m going to forgive Hofstadter again because the book has in the end provided me with an enhanced perspective on something that interests me very much.

Hostetter counters such an objection by bringing up Cartesian dualism, that thinking that we are minds locked inside of bodies conjures up that, to use Zizek’s words, spectre that haunts western metaphysics. The book demands great patience from the reader.

I Am a Strange Loop

On the face of it, this is an interesting book. This self-reference at a more complex level of representation is the eponymous “strange loop.

He hofstaster keeps saying things like there is a scale from small soul, with not much of a strange loop, to a big soul, where the self-concept is rich. Dec 21, Joe rated it it was ok.

And he doesn’t really get to the point until about 50 pages before the end. Maybe not, but my objection is that this idea of “interiority” is not shown to be the only meaningful expression of consciousness or “souledness.

DOUGLAS HOFSTADTER I AM A STRANGE LOOP PDF

“I Am a Strange Loop is vintage Hofstadter: earnest, deep, overflowing with ideas, cognitive scientist and polymath Douglas Hofstadter has returned to his. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter. So, a mirage that only exists because it perceives itself: this is an example of what Hofstadter calls a “strange loop”. He has an endearing.

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Feb 22, Claus rated it it was ok Shelves: But this is not an obvious equivalence, I dare say. But does this analogy really hold?

It’s not at all clear to me that this book has any genuine insights to offer, but that may be that it is lost on me as I find his writing style douglax, but amateurish If Hofstadter and I both grant that consciousness is a totally physical phenomenon, like lightning striking or sand dunes, then we have to grant that other hofstafter undergoing complex physical processes might be experiencing other kinds of consciousness no less valid than our own.

What this story lacks is an understanding of how a unique point-of-view makes the self what it is. This gives the Strange Loop the character of quantum uncertainty: That’s a very biased way of looking at things.

Douglas Hofstadter’s “I Am a Strange Loop” on the Self

It seemed like his arguments could have been made much more clearly in a shorter work and if he toned down his personality. There are truths that can not be proved. Svest je x simbol skup simbola u svakom mozgu. So why wouldn’t you?!

So in one respect what Hofstadtwr is saying is true, but in another, Hofstadter says ‘True, but you can’t deny the way we live in other people’s thoughts, influence their decisions. Might we not lead ourselves into error by assuming that human consciousness is the highest attainment yet along a one-dimensional scale running from ‘no soul’ to ‘maximum soul? I got about three-quarters of the way through and by then it seemed like Hofstadter had completely lost the plot.

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A Critical Review of Douglas Hofstadter’s I Am a Strange Loop | Adam Westra –

He does not believe in free will, which makes sense, and he doesn’t believe either in mystical, incorporeal souls. It was so cool to hear him unashamedly demonstrate his passions for the rigorous and logical study of mathematics and then discuss the definition of a soul and how we live in many people, live on in others to some extent, that this offers some consolation when people pass. Our enormous craniums each contain a hundred million neurons, with each individual neuron making thousands of potential connections, making douglaw brains the most complex information processors in the known universe.

Anyway, I am a self-referent loop that talks about itself. lolp

It was either too indirect, too intricately argued, or too Germanic for me to follow, and after months of off and on attempts I finally put it aside. Svakako da se sve to odvija u mozgu; neuroni i sve oko njih su i dalje glavni. Does this argument require that we also say that animals without much “interiority” are “small-souled? So far, the only noticeable advances in the field of AI have only been virtual magic tricks — in part researchers can get computers to seem to “think” like humans as in Deep Blue’s chess victories over Garry Kasparov for specific tasks, but such simulations only work for the specific applications for which they were programmed.

I suspect that Mr.

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Moreover, the concepts we can create are infinitely extensible stfange meaning, we can pile concept upon concept to generate ever increasing levels of generalization and abstraction. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. The metric employed depends on the interest one has of course. Most likely they will not.

In the preface to its 20th-anniversary edition, Hofstadter laments that the book was perceived as a hodgepodge of neat things with no central theme. But this makes the following question all the more pressing: So overall, I didn’t particularly enjoy this one.

Douglas Hofstadter’s “I Am a Strange Loop” on the Self

Existence exits, and I am conscious. But stepping hofstadyer from the level of simms the murky argumentation and missing citations and overreliance on a handful dojglas rather limited analogies to the simmbllic level hehI’m finding it hard to understand the significance of the argument, which seems to go something like this: His consciousness will end and some other person identical to him in every way will be reborn, but his point-of-view of the world will be snuffed out.

What a personality is is a set of habits: Nov 23, Leo Robertson rated it really liked it. Lists with This Book. It is basically an argument against dualism through a celebration of how we can still have souls or greatness or whatever even though we are only made of particles.

Sometimes, too, Hofstadter employs playful analogies to show how consciousness works, and how it doesn’t work.